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To me, a safe space is a space with rules beyond the law of the state. It's a near endless spectrum comprising of all most all privately owned spaces.

Safe spaces are fine.

Is this Gerard Way?

>>23669
the way of the gerard…

>>23675
I think it is. I didn't closely follow the band he was in but his fashion style was very noticeable, and apparently I remembered this jacket he always wore.

A safe space is one of those rooms in Resident Evil with the cool music, a save spot, and a magical item storage box. No zombies can come inside and some can be quite cozy. They even have extra items sometimes.

>>23669
It's Ally Sheedy

>>23678
Crazy how completely wrong I was. Time to sudoku to preserve my honor.

>>23678
yes indeed, the girl from The Breakfast Club lel

Safe space is such a derogatory term.
I'd rather call them, "noiseless rooms".
The more noise a room has, the harder it is for the main subject to be discussed, and earnest discussion to be had.
The folks inside that room can make an agreement whether newcomers can do some noise or not, but it shouldn't be on the detriment of the whole in the end. It's an agreement they should take upon.
Allowing external forces to modify the status quo, despite them being on the minority, and not being core to the group's beliefs, isn't the best thing to do, if the original purpose of the room wants to be maintained.
So yeah, bad term.

>>23683
thought it was that girl from ginger snaps

when i was a youth i did saturday detention in my school which was not far from the school where they filmed the breakfast club…it even kinda resembled the school in the breakfast club. read a lot of books and did actually meet friends there

For me, safe space is alone time with no prying eyes.

No safe is space. All humans are evil and demonic. Even if you spend time alone, you are with your own self which is corrupted by satanic forces and microplastics.

>>23667
i want a safe space for me and all my friend and an unsafe space for people i don't like

>>23786
That's just like, your opinion bro

>>23667
They are impossible to find at times and I use them as a crutch for my own social failures.

Ultimately they don't protect me from my greatest enemy, which is my own mind and the mannerisms that stem from that.

>>23667
I think the informed opinion on safe spaces is that they're necessary.

A lot of people need to go through a formation process before really becoming something, and a safe space is necessary for that formation to occur and be successful. The wild west of the internet generally exposes you to contrary opinions on almost every possible stance you can assume. Analysis paralysis subjugates the beginner into being too unconfident to take early steps in a particular direction. There's a place for freedom of speech, but there's also a place for safe spaces. Discipleship or mentorship, the primary vehicle for the development of the individual, will require a safe space. Additionally, it's really not feasible to research everything, because then your progress will be really slow. You have to trust in the experts and trusted sources.
Also, there's the fundamental need for peace. A safe space is a place to rest. Everybody needs a place to rest. You shouldn't have to constantly argue over every little thing, especially in your own home. And you should have a home, because you need to rest.

>>23792
Although I agree to some extent, I would like to add (or emphasize) that it is a balance between the "safe space" and "that which lies beyond".
For I believe that someone should be exposed to more than exclusively what they are comfortable with. Ideally in such a way that the individual is reasonably prepared to face the unfamiliar.
Furthermore, I think it can vary from person to person, and it should not be assumed that there is one approach that will work universally.

>>23800
I hope this is not too "uncomfy" to mention, but I would also like to add that in some cases there is no option.
Some (safe) spaces do not provide the necessary preparation, and sticking to them can (somewhat ironically - since "safe" space) do more harm. Since, for some people, the challenges in life will get more difficult over time, not venturing out into the unfamiliar leaves one less and less prepared.
The key, in my opinion, remains to try to maintain "balance" between the different spaces where reasonably possible.

i find it fascinating how many people respond to the notion as if what is being asked is to never ever be challenged on anything in any way shape or way form

when it's more like "there should exist at least a few spaces where certain issues can be discussed without interference from people who have zero experience or knowledge about those issues but still love to hear themselves talk"

what >>23802 said.

And there's all kinds of gated communities that enforce standards among their members, "safe space" is just code for progressive/agnostic ones. There's plenty of religious or "traditional values" organizations that are the same types of spaces for different groups of people.

>>23802
There are multiple ways to interpret it, you don't decide the only valid way it should be "more like".
The other interpretations aren't wrong just for not being the same as yours.

I got nothing to do rn while waiting, so hear me out
my (un)informed opinion on safe spaces, in a social context, is that they just naturally happen. be it within the comfort of your house with a confident, or at the gym, or at a book club. They kinda just happen and I believe is a normal part of a person's environment. Really they serve as a place to explore things without the fear of stigmas.

Approaching the topic with the assumption that OP heard the following; You likely heard the term used online within a negative connotation. As this thing that "REAL MEN don't need!". To me it sounds like code for "Don't go out of your comfort zone! Don't change your views!". I believe this, because I believe safe spaces are integral in the development of a person. To commit mistakes and properly learn from them without the fear of destroying your reputation. Without safe spaces, a person tries to limit those risks, therefor not changing themselves much. You also become very malleable so that you can comply to the views of whoever imposes themselves onto you. I go so far as to say that the notion that "safe spaces are bad" contributed heavily to the insecurities many are facing now. The people that subscribed to that idea are actively avoiding exploring themselves. Exploration of the self is a very important part to gaining self confidence. The more you know about yourself, and your limits, and reinforce your beliefs thru friendly challenge, the more you steel your identity, which makes you more confident. Knowledge is power, afterall.

That being said, I don't believe one can really avoid a safe space. safe spaces just happens. going out to fish with the homies and shoot the shit. going out with the girls to check out new outfits. going to the club with your fellow fags. sharing opinions on the news with like-minded individuals.
Really the only way to not interact with a safe space is to surround yourself with people you don't trust and/or shut yourself from the unknown and the outside (digital or real).

>>23801
i think this highlights the differences between safe spaces that I think are healthy vs not.

i support and cherish "sanctuary" safe spaces, places that don't exist to pull you away from the world, but rather to give you a moment of reprieve from it. Spaces like this should encourage people to leave and return again when needed, offering support to better face the world when they leave.

The other kind of safe space i think of as "escape" safe spaces. these spaces exist with the exact opposite of sanctuaries, with the mindset of "i dont have to learn how to survive because i will have my safe space to retreat to"