/lounge/ - sushi social

>>4634
And only use it to stay on Facebook.

>>4978
Technology is ambivalent. Each new technology brings great good and great evil with it, proportional to how powerful that technology/knowledge is.

Nuclear Fissile Energy IS the solution to the climate crisis.
AND YET
Nuclear Fissile Weapons will kill millions.

Its important that we be cautious and diligent with new technologies so that we use them responsibly, but at the same time fearing technology and trying to run away from it is like trying to hide from one of the seasons. Primitivism seems like an overreaction based on speculations about how BAD the future will be, instead of how GOOD it could be.

Try to be an optimistic realist sushi, you won't grow back a single hair on your head by worrying about the future.

>>4626
BIG IRON

>>4712
rad optimist

>>4713
gay pessimist

>>6843
>A pessimistic view protects me from all the evil in world and all the pain I could experience
This is just a form of self-deception. Negativity doesn't protect you from anything, and incentivizes laziness and underachievement by making excuses for why you shouldn't even try. Accepting pain and moving on is important, but what you're advocating for is a kind of conformism that hand-waves life away with pessimistic attitudes towards the whole ordeal. You gave up on improvement and pursued useless platitudes like altruism because it was easier than giving a damn and trying to get somewhere instead of meandering through life like you have. The only boon to your doublethink was the apparent confidence you achieved once you realized that you don't have to care what others think about you, but you could have come to the same conclusion as an optimistic realist as well.

Stop deluding yourself and pick up growth mindset with a realistic optimistic outlook on life and meaning. Because truth is a reality, not an ideal. Because your perceptions aren't the abstract reduction of chemicals within an electromagnetic lattice. Because life has more meaning when you can enjoy both its highs and its lows, rather than a detached static of experiences painted by a veneer of absurdity and hidden behind a facade of nihilism. Because studies prove it has a strong direct correlation to productivity and happiness. Embrace life and see the value in the mundane, or be nothing.

>>9683
Why do we need heroes?

>>9683
I stopped reading part 8 a while ago so I could wait till its all finished. Please, is his just a meme? Or is this an actual conversation?

>>9906
Its a meme as demonstrated by >>9907

Avoiding spoilers, what adds an extra layer to it is that the top character gives up at the first sign of resistance - he has no internal drive because he is so pessimistic. Meanwhile the character on the bottom is intensely driven and in typical anime protag fashion will keep going even if they're missing an arm and a leg (literally). So it adds that little cherry on top to my point in the existentialism/pessimism rant.

Nothing can stop you when you see all walls as something to climb. Pessimism sees every pebble as a mountain by contrast. Ergo: realistic optimism is the only path forward if you want to live a good life. You control your own destiny.

no image, couldn't find anything to fit this feel.

>>4626
>>9683
Maybe. But only you can improve yourself.

>>9106
Thinking kids making asses of themselves is the harbinger of doom is part of being an adult.

>>4626
I think we live in a pretty bad age. The level of information hiding is on a whole new level.

>>12401
>The level of information hiding is on a whole new level
But the level of information availability is also unprecedented. Think of:
>Wikipedia
>Free news from mainstream media websites
>Wikileaks
>Open source software
>Open-access academic journals
>Q&A sites such as StackExchange

That's just the legal layer of today's information soil. Think of all the books, manuals, journal articles and so forth you can get through torrenting (also IPFS nowadays).

Sure, not all of the resources in the list are available in every country. But governments used to have a much easier job of controlling information: just censor the handful of newspapers that the majority of citizens read and they will be in your service. Now it's harder to prevent ordinary people from finding alternative sources of information, or gaining specialist knowledge from the internet.

>>12413
So few people actually do and doing so is a pain. And then when you try to interface with the average person they won't believe you.

>>12413
>>12418
Now is the best time to learn basic knowledge but the worst to learn relevant truths.

>>4626
hardly the greatest

>>12418
>So few people actually do and doing so is a pain.
Okay, but my argument is that it is easier to learn (physics|drawing|government secrets) than it ever has been. If you picked a random human life to live from the whole history of our species, chances are you would pick an illiterate hunter-gatherer with no chance of formal education and not a clue what was happening beyond his/her small patch of the land.

It's hard to educate oneself today, but it used to be literally impossible.

>>12419
>relevant truths
Such as?

>>4626
That's subjective.

>>4626
Yes, well that's a classic aphorism

"We're living in the best possible reality, says the optimist
The pessimist fears that this may be true"

>>12479
You're living now. Do it or make do.

>>12923
Vampire Red Wedding

>>4978
>You have to take the good with the bad
>The full eradication of the entire world is impossible with pre-agrarian technology. If you really find The Bomb terrifying the inevitable end conclusion you will come to is that technology has been misused by powerful people for the entire history of humanity.
Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one makes the rules
The fate of all mankind it seems is in the hands of fools

>>4626
Get time if you are a rich millionaire… not so much, otherwise.

>>15481
>Get time
Great time.
Bleh.
I have a headache.

I think it's undeniable to come to the conclusion - if you do any sort of retrospective and introspective thinking - that we live in the time of kali yuga. "the age of quarrel and hypocrisy"
Everything appears fine and dandy to you, especially if you happen to live in a secure working or middle class environment. But you probably never stop to ponder exactly whose sacrifice and backs are broken from the oppressive nature of capitalism which provides that security for you. To be honest, it is quite selfish to say "we live in the greatest age known to man" when you are perfectly aware that the so-appearing flourishment of our civilization is only made possible through exploitation of the less fortunate. Ultimately though this myth most likely arises not only from your own dishonesty but also ignorance. I would recommend you at least read Rene Guenon or David Bentley Hart

>“But I don’t believe in the myth of progress. If he literally means that we have emerged into a period moral superiority in every sphere, I mean, yes, Western industrial societies flourish and they look after their own, they’re also complicit in many more discrete violence’s, violence’s that are hid from everyday view, wars that are not fought on their own soil, exploitation of other peoples, their resources, their economies. The use of…cheap labor in China to mass produce products to give us a level of material comfort that allow us to look after one another. Yes, we have altered the way in which we go about enacting our violence’s, we have drawn in our borders a bit, and we do in modern societies have functioning welfare states that are somewhat more provident toward our own, but the notion that we’re better off now morally, that morally we’ve advanced in an unambiguous way, and in every sense, and because we’ve thrown off religion, as if religion existed in the abstract and we’re a single monolithic reality, or as if religion were to blame for the atrocities of the twentieth century, which is the age of the great march forward of the secular national state as a project, I think it’s just a wild over-simplification, and a dangerous one, because I think it allows one a degree of a moral complacency and optimism not warranted by history….”

>“It’s a realist view to recognize that just because we tell ourselves that we’re morally superior to our ancestors when you actually get down to the ways in which our society is constructed and how it sustains itself, we discover that, no, we, in our own way, are violent and rapacious and indifferent to the sufferings of others, we just have chosen a different set of others to be indifferent towards.”
-David Bentley Hart

Well despite all this pessimism I'm not advocating for living in despair, despite personally believing in that mankind is living through great tragedy I still try to live beautifully and affirm the more "god-given" aspects of life. But attempting to affirm a globally positive stance as you're holding an iPhone in your hand and don't even consider what this device really means and and implies is at best ignorant and at worst hypocritical.

I wanna decent holiday to relax & recharge..

>>4636
People just don't know where to look for information and learning resources in general. While it is true that most books and scientific articles are behind a paywall, there is a considerable amount of solutions to get access without paying anything (pirate libraries are ironically the largest libraries in human history).
Yet, most people are not aware of these solutions since they have a biased perspective about how one makes a business out of a web service. That being said, maybe these solutions wouldn't exist if they suddenly become mainstream.

>>17869
True. Also True. True. Yeah that's the problem: I'm stuck trying to figure out how to pull a salivary stone out when I can't even make cereal.

>>4817
Here, take this with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAFHQobvqXI
>>4818
Yeah don't do that please also that's not even a real place.

Let’s herd some cattle.

Alexa, play FORTUNATE SON.

Things only seem bad if you take modern conveniences for granted.

500 years ago you either shit in a pot and threw it out in the street, or shit in the fields. You hauled water from the nearest well or river. It often wouldn't meet modern sanitation standards and you'd regularly suffer from gastrointestinal illnesses. You didn't bathe except for special events. There was no air conditioning, best you could do was sit in the shade in a breezy area. When it was cold, you huddled around a fire and cooked one side while the other froze. Medical care was rudimentary. You expected half your children to die before they reached their 10th birthday. Entertainment consisted of gambling or perhaps crowding into an occasional public performance of some sort. There was no electrical infrastructure. When it got dark your only source of light was candles or oil lamps. Transportation was nonexistent for most people; when you wanted to go somewhere you walked there.

>>23766
500 years ago you shit using what was called a cuckstoel, hence the term to be one's cuckstoel, to take being shit on from someone else.

Villages had wells and wells dropped down to a largely untainted water table. What I mean by this is villages had learned not to put their wells downstream of the graveyard where they bury people. "Bad air" would wander onto them. Yeah… Most died on campaign to foreign bugs they weren't used to back home, along with Typhus and the likes.

There is still no air conditioning in my country. You're describing what people do in current year. Except you can buy an ice cream.

For heat you needed good firekeeping yes. Again, it was not weird for your based ancient boomoids to have a grasp on this. An anglo firepit for the village's longhouse is a 3m by 2m square hole with flint chips marked and ashened by fire, most likely shoveled over a large flame to heat stones and then slam the large or small morsel down into those hot stones. If you don't have anglo-norse ancestry this might be something else from elsewhere. But in my eyes that's for cooking in batch, and well, not that well developed or appetising. I don't know. I've never tried a modern day sample from one. Mustard sauce developed from hiding the taste of meats that had gotten rotten. The medieval variety still exists, you can still buy it, but I'm glad it developed further I don't like the taste. It's roughly milled and grainy, slightly more than horseradish. At least it isn't just sand.

Medical care was done via the ward system and tithe system through the church. It was their job to make the sick well. The system worked - it wasn't broken per se. But with modern centralisation you get modern advantages.

Child mortality was two things. Living in cities and built up areas rife with disease, and lack of maternity reform. It was left to women, individualism, and superstition. Which isn't nothing, but when men got seriously involved it dropped to less than 1 in 20 as per before. Something as ludicrous as that. Consensus on maternity practices has subsequently helped much of the world.

Entertainment was more human oriented than now. We mock board games, but that's what they had.

Toilberg could not make you work in the dark, so at night people would go home.

Transportation was a premium. There were persona non grata between villages, cut throats and the sort. Careful how you go and all that.

On the whole the culture I'm from was a good strong one. The things they were weak on; cooking, pottery, house-building were looked upon as kind of domestic mule work and not taken seriously until later on. If you want to make out that it was utter barbarity and hardship all of the time, remember how easy it was to avoid a sociopath ruler and go somrwhere else. Everything is centralised now. If you want a different way of life you'll find no shelter from it on the other side of the hill

>>23768
What were these ancient boomids based on though?

>>23772
Sticking to anglo-norse it's believed to be corded ware culture but it's disputed in and around that area. Corded ware is supposed to have contained in it mainly steppe pastoralist and anatolian farmer genetic material, the lesser anatolian part derives "probably" from Sredny Stog but the greater steppe pastoralist part is really disputed. We have details for how people lived slightly before this time through Ötzi the Iceman. Enough artifacts in enough of a condition to say both how he lived and how he died, since the man who killed him didn't strip his possessions once he'd presumably satiated some kind of primitive revenge or feud arc (men who kill out of revenge seem not interested in valuable objects on the corpse).

All this is highly interesting.

"The greatest age known to man (or not)" is the premise, though. It's not a great time to be alive. We've given modern medical science to keep alive culturally vacuous bugmen. Who swamp entire continents. Who hate their own existence because there's too many of them. I'm not anti-humanity, but the point is to be selective towards the kinds of quality we want to cultivate in our lives, and we've completely lost the plot on that.

This world is objectively evil. It is satanic and overflowing with atheism and nihilism. You people are all fucked and you are all part of a conspiracy to destroy me. I hate you all.

>>23774
I concur. I just live in my head most of the time. I don't want to interact with this world and therefore I won't.

>>23775
This is not possible. Your consciousness has already been shaped by your encounter with the world. In fact there is no real separation between your interior (head) and exterior (the world). What this means is that we are all polluted both physically (micro plastics in our brain) and mentally (the satanism of the world).

>>23776
Don't care. I just went for a jolly frolic in the meadows of the Swiss Alpines in my imagination with my goat herding tulpa and now we have settled down for classical music and supping on kartoffelpuffer. Your sword of fearmongering can never penetrate my shield of mental delusion and whimsical folly.

>>23777
I just had a dream where the car I was driving auto-accelerated with all the brakes doing nothing in a heavingly pedestrianised place and hit the school children and their guides trying to stop it, then the entire line of questioning was about not having the license rather than faults that affect the car

>>23774
nuh uh! i like it here actually

>>23779
Your mind is a reflection of modern society where people care more about the appearance of upholding virtue rather than the individual lives that are being affected by the vices around it, ignored and forgotten. We're cannibalizing ourselves. It's good not to delude ourselves in thinking "everything is awesome" while those who suffer go unnoticed. You probably have a good soul in you. Here's a gold star.

>>4626
>>4627
This is a world where a moron can start a fight and cause global oil prices to rise. I hate it.

>>23807
It's me i'm the moron i will keep fighting hahahaha

>>4703
>Anarchy empowers the people who can afford expensive security and military.

this would not be a thing under anarchy

Had I been born in any other era, I would not have met my kitty.

Be positive?

>>23937
He means HIV positive

>>23938
ewwwwwww

>>23953
Ꮯould you please not post depictions of people in relationships? It causes me to feel envy. Thank you.