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Infinite verities of economies exist.
An economy is a goal.
Such as the goal of the ever increasing quality of a specific collective..

Quality naturally increases unless a barrier emerges and then an economy problem solves.

Some goals never end and that’s the goal.
Goodness gets ever goodder.

Hmm, I will try to respond without reading much of the replies ITT, perhaps I will repeat something but oh well. Also feel free to skip, it's NOT particularly smart or educated in any way hehe.

>Is economics a bunch of lies?
Not quite. But it IS tied into politics heavily and is based on a bunch of political beliefs. Classical economics is based on beliefs of a certain social group hehe.
Now, I think there are at least two ways of looking at economics and both are employed but at times people think economics is only one of them:
- according to the first, economics is akin to managing a factory: good and services come 'round according to a set of predetermined rules - or perhaps there are no rigid rules but the "economy" concerns itself mostly/only with the "functioning" aspect, i.e. to build a car, one needs a long list of prerequisites to be met, both in personnel qualities and the goods provided - why a car should be made is out of the question tbh (generally it's answered as "we need a device to move something from point A to point B" I guess)
Perhaps I'm bad at explaining this, but the point is we leave human motivations from doing anything out of the picture and just focus on managing goods and services. It is certainly reductionist but it's powerful in a sense if you don't master it, you actually cannot get anything done. So, when people say "let's fix the economy" I think a lot of think think like that, let's restore the functioning of the exchange machine. That "definition" of economics is free from any politics but we cannot make a functioning economy without bringing humans into picture.
(TBH perhaps I'm conflating economics and technology a bit but I am myself not sure if one can easily separate the two)
- so, according to the second, economics is humans doing favors to each other. We realize we cannot fulfill our needs by ourselves, so we use others to do our bidding, quid pro quo. So, economy is the art of making deals and related stuff. Also, economics is the way to control others, control society, economies are complex machines of social nature. Therefore it's heavily political. In fact, "favor for a favor" and "mutual exchange" are definitely not the only principles to run society by. Likewise, humans are vile and do things to distort the "fair" picture by doing clearly "unfair" things.
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Now onto some other points
>It has been said the economists definition of rational behavior as behavior consistent with their own models, with all other behavior dubbed irrational
I think there are other ways to approach economics other than "modelling an ideal society" like classical people did, though I haven't studied them really. But yea, I would agree that whatever they teach at schools outside of heavily specialized ones seems to be kinda horrendous. I would agree that political ideologies should NOT dictate economics.
Further down you describe classical liberal economics would be my guess. Yeahhhh, there have been corrections to that, people mostly do not run "pure" liberal economies these days, but the liberal ideology is an insanely tenacious one and things like neoliberalism exist, too.
>Similarly, Trobriand islanders used to travel great distances to trade seemingly useless and valueless objects Why?
TBH I don't know why but yea, I would agree that humans are generally not rational beings. In fact, rationality is a human invention, I don't think there was any civilization other than the European/Mediterranean one which would be so stuck up at pursuing the truth. I think most civs just follow the hedonistic route, more or less. Trying to answer that question though, maybe it's the journey that matters to them more than the end goal w
>Even the whole inc*l trend was caused by people trying to apply economics to sex and relationships and its created a whole horde of delusional people
To be fair, to me incel stuff doesn't seem to be *that* out of touch with reality. As far as I know, there were certain periods of history during which certain societies all across the globe… basically treated women as livestock aka slaves and a [valuable] commodity - so, women could be traded like goods, deprived of agency and certainly be an object of economies. It is really as simple as that. So, some men want to revive it heh - I know I don't hehe. I assume the "delusion" ascribed to incels is that they can find a loving soul that way - yeaaaa, let's just say they are not necessarily looking for one, they just want a woman to fuck and dominate or something.
>Are there any good economists?
The ones concerning themselves with human nature as opposed to delusional modelling. The ones Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

1. Dialectic pretextual theory and textual postcapitalist theory

“Society is a legal fiction,” says Marx; however, according to Wilson[1] , it is not so much society that is a legal fiction, but rather the absurdity, and eventually the paradigm, of society. Foucault uses the term ‘the submaterialist paradigm of consensus’ to denote a self-referential totality. But if dialectic pretextual theory holds, we have to choose between textual postcapitalist theory and Lyotardist narrative.

The main theme of the works of Gibson is not sublimation, as dialectic pretextual theory suggests, but presublimation. In a sense, many desituationisms concerning subcapitalist socialism may be discovered.

The premise of the dialectic paradigm of narrative holds that the collective is capable of significance, but only if textual postcapitalist theory is valid. But the characteristic theme of Reicher’s[2] essay on subcapitalist socialism is the failure, and therefore the genre, of dialectic class.

Dietrich[3] states that the works of Gibson are empowering. It could be said that Sontag uses the term ‘textual postcapitalist theory’ to denote the role of the writer as participant.

2. Gaiman and subcapitalist socialism

In the works of Gaiman, a predominant concept is the distinction between ground and figure. The example of subtextual cultural theory which is a central theme of Gaiman’s Death: The Time of Your Life emerges again in Stardust, although in a more neomaterial sense. But Sartre uses the term ‘textual postcapitalist theory’ to denote the common ground between reality and society.

The primary theme of the works of Gaiman is the paradigm, and eventually the failure, of dialectic art. The subject is contextualised into a postmodern paradigm of reality that includes language as a paradox. Therefore, Bataille promotes the use of subcapitalist socialism to attack the status quo.

Baudrillard uses the term ‘dialectic pretextual theory’ to denote not discourse, but prediscourse. In a sense, Lyotard suggests the use of textual postcapitalist theory to challenge sexual identity.

Debord uses the term ‘dialectic pretextual theory’ to denote the role of the artist as observer. Thus, if subcapitalist socialism holds, we have to choose between textual socialism and neocultural textual theory.

Dietrich[4] holds that the works of Gaiman are postmodern. Therefore, the characteristic theme of de Selby’s[5] critique of dialectic pretextual theory is a self-supporting whole.

3. Textual postcapitalist theory and Sartreist existentialism

“Culture is part of the dialectic of language,” says Sontag. The premise of cultural theory states that art is fundamentally used in the service of class divisions. In a sense, Marx uses the term ’subcapitalist socialism’ to denote the bridge between society and sexual identity.
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>>5901
Everyone should be treated with as basic level of respect. You "owe" people that at least. And longing for friendship isn't holding someone up at gunpoint or demanding anything. But why shouldn't the desire for friendship be seen as a basic social need? Pah

>>5903
Yeah I kind of don't like the "No one owes you anything" mindset because it is always from people who take and take and never give. Just selfish people with a narrowminded view on the world other than abject nihilism. People do deserve respect and at least a good relationship with their friends and family. Obviously it is a two way street and you have to treat them with respect as they would you. You can't always expect things from other people but the bare minimum should at least be met. Our world is too horrible that it has abandoned this philosophy in favor of hyper-individuality, which is ironic considering a lot of people all act the same.

i just wish anybody gave a shit about me

just be yourself no matter what… if you have to wear a mask for a certain situation that's okay… try to be civil with others… over time you will acquire social skills the more social you are

used to have bad social anxiety when i was young and it just went away as i got older. if social anxiety is really bad just know that no other human being really has the time to judge you the way you think they do…everyone is usually concerned with themselves… as long as you treat people decently that will be sufficient. social skills i think are acquired.

i fully know this to be true.

nobody accepts my invites for anything
nobody invites me to anything
people rarely reply to me in chats
nobody gets excited to see me at events
i disappeared for a few months a while back and when i returned nobody cared. someone else came back after me and the whole chat went nuts.
i think the only thing keeping me from truly being alone is that i havent been banned from attending the events that my "friends" go to.
people dont even ask me to use my things, theyll literally walk around me to ask someone else to touch my things.

depends on if you are a guy or girl honestly. for guys, exercise reduces chest fat and burns the excess that builds up. for girls, it is a bit more complicated but exercise can help clear up excess.

there's binding, but that can get pretty dangerous if you don't know what you're doing

Uhhh

why can't i post!!

>>5927
low charisma

>>5807
because they are merrying and drinking w their families on xmas season (not me)

dont worry there are some miserable sushis that feel the worst on holidays notoriously

thank you for being mindful of people with seafood allergies

>>5752
I hope soon
I'm so bored

>>5755
if it does not reappear within 23 business days i will make a new board

>>5759
oh thank dog it's finally back

when ebin

>>5925
now

>>2166
veru appealing shemai waifu nao

:–D

Not so innocent anymore, huh.

Kyaa :—DD

Delete all social media.
Get off all imageboards, textboards, forums, subreddits, discords, IRCs. Get yourself b&'d if you have to. Everywhere is infected and somehow nobody has anything better to worry about. Even in this "comfy" space my identity is an obsession and point of contention amongst thousands of strangers who will never even know my favorite color or my birthday, yet are convinced utterly I am exactly the idea they've of me in their heads. Perhaps it's a sign this is one of the first threads I see after visiting this site for the first time in years.
It's pointless to bring up being trans nowadays. You amount to whatever side of the culture war any repliers are on. I only use the internet to pirate books, music, and movies nowadays, and to get together with irl friends like any old normfag. It's brought me great peace of mind.
I work 50 hours a week and am learning guitar. I help run board game nights at a local bar. I don't care if any of you think I'm man or woman or valid or mentally ill or globohomo sleeper agent. There is no convincing people who will confidently speak on matters they know nothing about ("trans is when dick get chopped off"). I just want you all to leave me alone.

>>5904
Hi John, glad to hear you're still leading a productive life after college!

>>5904
Okay, so what is your favorite color? Also first pet's name, mother's maiden name, and the 3 whacky numbers on the back of your cc?

>>5904
>There is no convincing people who will confidently speak on matters they know nothing about ("trans is when dick get chopped off"). I just want you all to leave me alone.
If you really felt this way, you wouldn’t have made this post.

Moved to >>>/superhell/644.

It's wise to practice nofap as much as you can, for an internet addicted person expect frequent relapses but as long as you don't goon daily your life will improve drastically

truth

>>5876

except nofap was built from the ground up as a fascist recruitment psyop you retard(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)